Sorry for no posting n for the fact that I didn't post the second Krishnamurti the other day! Was in such a mad hurry to get back to the film=)
Sooo, yeees lots of things on me mind again.. I'll try n keep it short.. I was pondering tday, among other things, why do people want "pass on the pain" as it were.. as in if something bad happens to you, you want it to happen to someone else too.. you'd think that if something bad or uncomfortable happened to you, you'd make sure it wouldn't ever happen to anyone else.. It amazes me that people seem to rejoice at the misfortune of others and be disappointed at their good luck.. Shouldn't it be the other way around...?
Well, I'll leave u with that thought n here are the Krishnamurti's, the second one from sunday, yesterday's n tray's:
The word is not the thing; the image, the symbol is not the real. Reality, truth, is not a word. To put it into words wipes it away and illusion takes its place. The intellect may reject the whole structure of ideology, belief and all the trappings and power that go with them, but reason can justify any belief, any ideation. Reason is the order of thought and thought is the response of the outer. Because it is the outer, thought puts together the inner. No man can ever live only with the outer, and the inner becomes a necessity. The division is the ground on which the battle of "me" and "not me" takes place. The outer is the god of religions and ideologies; the inner tries to conform to those images and conflict ensues.
There is neither the outer nor the inner but only the whole. The experiencer is the experienced. Fragmentation is insanity. The wholeness is not merely the word; it is when the division as the outer and inner utterly ceases. The thinker is the thought.
Suddenly, as you were walking along, without a single thought but only observing without the observer, you became aware of a sacredness that thought has never been able to conceive. You stop, you observe the trees, the birds and the passer-by; it is not an illusion or something with which the mind deludes itself. It is there in your eyes, in your whole being. The color of the butterfly is the butterfly.
Several of us were sitting in a thin mattress on the floor when he entered the room and we got up and offered him the mattress. He sat cross-legged. putting his cane in from of him; that thin mattress seemed to give him a position of authority. He had found truth, experienced it and so he, who knew, was opening the door for us. What he said was law to him and to others; you were merely a seeker, whereas he had found. You might be lost in your search and he would help you along the way, but you must obey. Quietly you replied that all the seeking and the finding had no meaning unless the mind was free from its conditioning; that freedom is the first and last step. and obedience to any authority in matters of the mind is to be caught in illusion and action that breeds sorrow. He looked at you with pity, concern, and with a flair of annoyance, as though you were slightly demented. Then he said, "The creates and final experience has been given to me and no seeker can refuse that."
If reality or truth is to be experienced, then it is only a projection of your own mind. What is experienced is not truth but a creation of your own mind.
His disciples were getting fidgety. Followers destroy their teachers and themselves. He got up and left, followed by his disciples.
There is no path to truth, historically or religiously. It is not to be experienced or found through dialectics; it is not to be seen in shifting opinions and beliefs. You will come upon it when the mind is free of all the things it has put together. The majestic peak is also the miracle of life.
He said: "I have spent many years in meditation, controlling my thoughts, fasting and having one meal a day. I used to be a social worker but I gave it up long ago as I found that such work did not solve the deep human problem. There are many others who are carrying on with such work but it is no longer for me. It has become important for me to understand the full meaning and depth of meditation. Every school of meditation advocates some form of control; I have practiced different systems but somehow there seems to be no end to it."
Control implies division, the controller and the thing to be controlled; this division, as all division, brings about conflict and distortion in action and behavior. This fragmentation is the work of thought, one fragmentation trying to control the other parts, call this one fragment the controller or whatever name you will. This division is artificial and mischievous. Actually, the controller is the controlled. Thought in its very nature is fragmentary and this causes confusion and sorrow. Thought has divided the world into nationality, ideologies and into religious sects, the big ones and the little ones. Thought is the response of memories, experience and knowledge, stored up in the brain; it can only function efficiently, sanely, when it has security, order. To survive physically it but protect itself from all dangers; the necessity of outward survival is easy to understand but the psychological survival is quite another matter, the survival of the image that thought has put together. Thought has decided existence as the outer and the inner and from this separation conflict and control arise. For the survival of the inner, belief, ideology, gods, nationalities, conclusions become essential and this also brings about untold wars, violence and sorrow. The desire for the survival of the inner, with its many images, is a disease, is disharmony. Thought is disharmony. All its images, ideologies, its truths are self-contradictory and destructive. Thought has brought about, apart from its technological achievements, both outwardly and inwardly, chaos and pleasures that soon become agonies. To read all this in your daily life, to hear and see the movement of thought is the transformation that meditation brings about.This transformation is not the "me" becoming the greater "me" but the transformation of the content of consciousness; consciousness is its content. The consciousness of the world is your consciousness; you are the world and the world is you. Meditation is the complete transformation of thought and its activities. Harmony is not the fruit of thought; it comes with the perception of the whole.
It's pretty darn late so good night fellow human beings & until next time!